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Hattersley’s New Heartbeat: How Birch Lea Park Is Transforming Senior Living

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At Birch Lea Park, a remarkable transformation is taking place in how we think about aging and independent living. This brand-new housing with care development in the heart of Hattersley isn't just changing landscapes – it's changing lives.

Through candid conversations with residents like Mike and Bridie, we discover what drove their decision to move after struggling with stairs and falls at home. "When we came here, it was different. We loved it straight away," Mike shares, describing the peace of mind that comes from knowing help is just a button-press away, 24 hours a day. 

Perhaps no story captures the impact more powerfully than Sandra's journey from adamant skeptic to enthusiastic advocate. After initially declaring she wouldn't move to Birch Lea Park with "not a cat in hell's chance," she now describes it as "the best move I've ever made" after just three months. "When I wake up in the night and see all the lights outside, I can't describe the comfort I get from it, the safety feeling," she reveals, highlighting how purpose-built environments can transform well-being.

Isabel Godwin from Onward Homes explains how Birch Lea Park represents decades of learning about what older people truly want: spacious apartments, cutting-edge digital support systems, and thoughtfully designed communal spaces that combat isolation. With amenities including a bistro, hair salon, activity rooms and beautiful gardens, residents maintain independence while building meaningful connections.

Local councillor Gary Ferguson envisions Birch Lea Park becoming "the heart of Hattersley" – not just a housing development but a community hub that brings people together across generations. As one resident's family member noted, "It's like a big posh hotel" that offers both luxury and safety.

Ready to explore how purposeful housing with care could transform your life or that of a loved one? Visit Birch Lea Park to see what independent living with support really looks like in 2025. Your new beginning might be waiting behind these doors.

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Mark:

Hello and welcome to a very special Hats Chats and Giggles podcast. We're coming to you from Birchley Park in the heart of Hatsley, a brand new housing with care development, featuring 91 apartments, purpose-built amenities and personalised support packages for older residents who want to keep their independence while having help close at hand. The doors have only just been opened for today's preview and the atmosphere is absolutely buzzing with possibility A place where community dignity and inspiration meet under our own roof. We'll be chatting with the visionary staff who designed and now run Birchley Park, as well as the residents who will soon call it home to explore what independent living with care on tap really looks like in 2025. So grab a cuppa, settle in and join us as we discover how Birchley Park hopes to change the ageing journey here in Tameside.

Mark:

One apartment, one neighbour and one conversation at a time this is Hats Chats and Giggles, where local voices make big ideas. So, yeah, I've been joined by Mike Bridey and Isabel Isabel works here. She's going to be telling us a little bit about, maybe, her job and some more info about Birchley Park, but first off, mike, yes, sir. Hello and welcome to Hats Chats and Giggles.

Mike:

Hello to you, sir.

Mark:

So tell us you're a resident here. Yes, how long have you been in?

Mike:

Since about six weeks now. Haven't we Five or six weeks? Yeah, Five, Five or six weeks now? Yeah, and how are you finding that? Oh, it's magnificent.

Mark:

Lovely.

Mike:

Yep, we love it. Right, we love it yeah. And all the people here are great, all these ladies, they're great help They've had enough for you, so oh, that's nice to know.

Mark:

So where did you? Where have you come from? Did you live in Hattersley before or?

Mike:

No, no, drowlesden.

Mark:

Drowlesden right. I used to live in Drowlesden.

Mike:

You still do? No, I used to, oh, yeah.

Mark:

I moved to Drowlesden from Garton, so it was like I was moving up the social ladder.

Mike:

We're sort of on the same thing there.

Mark:

Right.

Mike:

We were over that way as well.

Mark:

Right, was you? Yeah, yeah, good to hear, good to hear. So what made you oh, there's a lot of noise going on in the background, folks, but you know it's a bit of actuality to prove that we are alive and this isn't AI or anything like that. Getting back to Mike, what made you consider moving to Birchley Park and how did you feel when you first walked through the doors?

Mike:

Well, we couldn't handle the stairs in our home anymore, and thus my wife had a couple of falls, so I couldn't lift her. I had to get neighbours to help. It was getting a bit out of hand, you know what I mean. So we looked around and we did see some other places, and I wouldn't put a dog in them, so I wouldn't know. They call them. I don't know why they call them residential, there's nothing to them, you know. But when we came here it was different. We just we loved it straight away. Right, we loved it straight away.

Mark:

I didn't know, I didn't know Bridie was your wife. You kept that quiet. You didn't tell me that, Mike.

Mike:

Oh, I told you you.

Mark:

How long have you been? How long have you been? 112 years 112 years I don't know how many life sentences that is, but you've done well there. You've done well, joking aside, then. So which sort of amenity or opportunity here are you most looking forward to using, and why?

Mike:

Well, the bistro when it opens, and all that because you'll be closer to meeting people, because you know we'll come down and use it every morning for a bit of breakfast or whatever's then being made in it, you know, and they have a meeting every Friday, a residence meeting. It's nice. You know. A lot of the residents that's here now come already, you know.

Mark:

Have you managed to make new friends while you're?

Mike:

here. Yeah, we have. Yes.

Mark:

So, comparing to where you used to live, do you think there's going to be more social interaction here?

Mike:

Oh yeah, there will be after a while, yeah.

Mark:

Yeah.

Mike:

Yeah, there will be. Yeah, and you've got the hub up the road, you know, which is handy as well. So, right, we just found out today you can go on a wednesday and they have stuff there, for they mentioned the word bingo and that keeps the wife happy, so they're all right, all right.

Mark:

Well, on this podcast on our what's on guide uh, which was created by young people from the area, there's a full description of what's going on in Hattersley, if anyone wants to know. So moving on then what does living well mean to you at this stage in your life and how do you see Birchley Park helping you to achieve that?

Mike:

I think a bit of comfort for a start, not have any worries. You know we don't have any worries. If we need need somebody, we ring the bell. Somebody will come and help us. If we've got any problem, they have people on 24-7, you know. Right that's good Help people. Luckily it's touch wood. We've not needed them so far, you know.

Mark:

But it's handy to know, I suppose, isn't it? Of course, yeah, especially if you've had a yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, Brady. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, brady's had a couple of falls. I suppose, it is giving you that hope we need them to be there.

Mike:

You know, it just gives us peace of mind. You know what I mean.

Mark:

Oh, that's nice. So on peace of mind, from your perspective, what does tailored care available on site change for you?

Mike:

Great, yeah, we need it. Everybody here needs it. You've seen the people. They're all old people. They need it. Most people are walking with walking sticks. Some people don't need them. You need the care. You need the care to be there when you need it. You know what I mean. You don't have to be worrying. I worried before when I couldn't pick her up one time. You know, if my neighbour hadn't have been in. Right, yeah, we had good neighbours, lucky enough. You know where we live. They were all staying and helped, you know. And then she had to spend four days in hospital after that, you know, to get checked out and everything. So here I wouldn't worry anything about that.

Mark:

So already you're reaping the benefits of it already. That's good to know. Well, thanks for that. You know what I'm going to speak to, isabel, now, good About time. Stay on, because you might have something to pop in here. Hi, isabel, hi, thanks for coming in on the podcast. So first off, isabel, tell us who you are. No, tell us about your role and your.

Isobel:

Yeah, of course. Hi everybody. I'm Isabel Godwin. I'm one of the older persons housing managers at Onward Homes. We are at the moment in Birchley Park, which is our newest specialist older persons accommodation that only opened in April, and although I look after lots of onwards housing with care schemes and older persons accommodation, I've got to say this is the biggest and the best and we've certainly applied everything that we've learned from our other accommodation and tried to throw it at birchley park so that we're providing something that the likes of mike and bridie um can benefit from for years to come.

Isobel:

Really, and and everybody in hattersley um, there was a stark shortage of social housing purpose built for older people within this community and I think Virtually Park were a 91 apartment scheme specifically designed for older people in mind.

Isobel:

So some of the challenges that Mike and Bridie had within their home being able to summon assistance is the primary one, but actually what we find is people are moving in and they may have needed care in their home, but because of the way that the building's being designed, it's level access. Every apartment is fitted with a level access shower, wet room and such and so we've really thought about that aging process and the likes of Mike and Bridie, although they've talked about their ailments today, are actually fit and active and, you know, still got a lot to give to our community here at Birchley Park. And that's what we want. We want a wide range of people making positive decisions to move in to accommodation like this, positive decisions to move in to accommodation like this so, you know, as they age, throughout the next 20, 30 years, they can stay exactly where they are within Birchley Park. I don't know whether I'm talking too much, mark.

Mark:

No, you haven't what you've just done, which I love. You've just answered a load of questions that I was going to ask you, so you're doing brilliant. In fact, I think you've been reading my notes.

Isobel:

Oh well, oh, I think it's just great minds maybe.

Mark:

Maybe it is, but so you said you've learnt from your past mistakes, which is life, really, isn't it Nothing? We can make plans, but most of our learning is from what goes wrong rather than what goes right. So you've mentioned your hopes. So do you think this model could be scaled or adapted elsewhere, in Greater Manchester, and what would need to be in place first.

Isobel:

Yeah, absolutely, and this is the second housing with care scheme that we've opened in the last two years. So we do have another housing with care scheme within Manchester and that's a smaller scheme. It's a housing and care scheme aimed at people living with dementia. Here at Birchley Park you can develop dementia and maintain your home. You don't have to move anywhere. So, to be honest with you, mark, we're always learning.

Isobel:

The reason I talked about previous accommodation is one of our oldest schemes is the same age as me, it's 50, built in 1974. Feelings then about what kind of accommodation older people would want was oh, they want small rooms, they want bedsits, they don't want to have to clean, don't want to have to clean. What we've learned over the years a lot since then is actually, just because you're older, you might not want a three-bedroomed house, but you want a sizable apartment because you're still living your life. Mike and brady, for example, you know thankfully we have got couples moving into the scheme, because quite often you know we have older single people, but it's brilliant when a couple moves in because, um, we've got the space within the apartments for a couple. Some of our schemes we haven't. The reality is thinking has changed so much in the last 50 years about what we actually want, and we've tried to throw that into birchley park, so I've forgotten your original question. But let me carry on, because what we've done here and what we have learned from other things we've got the most fabulous digital technology being installed here. So within all of the apartments and throughout the communal areas, we've got the most up-to-date and the best piece of kit in terms of a lifeline system and we've put it in here. We're moving with the times. We're recognising that people are moving with the times.

Isobel:

I know Bridie and Mike. You both have mobile phones, you both have smartphones. Within the apartments there are tablets so that people can contact their visitors, you can do FaceTime, you can see who's calling at the door. All of those are really good features. But the safety features and what we find is, as people age, living within general needs accommodation. One of the key reasons for wanting to move, second to a health need, is actually a fear of crime within the community, because people often become isolated within their own homes due to maybe people moving out of the area, maybe people moving into more specialist accommodation, and the sad reality is that living within your own home sometimes leads you to be very isolated. That can lead to other health conditions. There's so much research I don't know whether you guys know yeah, yeah, we're not isolation linked with alzheimer's disease, and actually you know there's.

Isobel:

There's massive um health benefits for us all to be more socially included and have the opportunities that Mike and Bridie now have. So, god forbid, bridie, you're in hospital for a couple of days. Mike, you're not on your own. There's somebody to bob down to, there's somebody to ask about Bridie. If you're in your own home, it's quite an isolating experience, something like that, and that's what we're hoping to be able to mitigate here.

Isobel:

The social inclusion. The event that's going on today is really an opportunity to get the community here. We're no good being an island on our own, because if we're not embraced by the community, just because you reach the age of 55 does not mean that you don't have younger friends, does not mean that you don't want to. You know, have your grandchildren come and visit you in the scheme, and what we've got here at Birchley is some opportunities for younger people to enjoy the time with elderly relatives or the spaces that we've got. One of the lounges we've got a pool table in. That's been a big hit, with some of the children visiting as well as us all really coming here. Children visiting as well as us all really coming here. But we're just in very early days of making Birchley Park its own community within the heart of Hattersley.

Isobel:

But we won't do that without the community coming in, if you like and seeing what's going on, so something like today is brilliant for us to break down some barriers about older persons' accommodation.

Mark:

And that's one of the reasons why we wanted to come down here and do a podcast. So could you tell me which community or statutory partners were key to bringing this to life, and how will those relationships continue when the doors are open?

Isobel:

Yeah, absolutely. I mean we're within tameside local authority so our links have been significant with um adult social care teams over there, in addition to the local councillors and everybody who over the last, you know, six or seven years have been waiting for birchley park to be built. It's the last stage of a development that Onward have completed across the estate. So we've got a number of new houses for rent available and you know it's just part of what we hope the future of Hattersley will look like. It's. You know it's a brilliant community. Everybody who we've met, who who's here, absolutely loves it.

Mark:

So when you're so sort of, if you're going to measure success 12 months from now, what kind of indicators will tell you that the model's working OK? Do you know? Will it be resident wellbeing scores or you know? What do you think?

Isobel:

Yeah, no think. I think the truth will be in brady and mike's experience. They're going to be telling us are we getting it right? Are we not getting it right? Yeah, having a fully occupied um scheme right with activities going on every day I would say um A fully operational bistro that's attracting business from the wider area, not just people living in Birchley Park, and the same for the hair salon and the beauty which is opening in July.

Mark:

We've got a team of hairdressers coming Tell us what other stuff. Then I knew about the bistro so go on. Tell us what other stuff is going to be on site.

Isobel:

So we've also got a hairdressers and salon. Again, that's going to be our business. We've got a maker's market. That Sam, our social investment officer.

Mark:

Oh, not Sam, Not Sam Powers.

Isobel:

Sam Powers, the brilliant Sam Powers is going to be arranging, Sorry is that okay, yeah, so sam's going to be arranging a maker's market once a month, um, and and we're hoping that that'll draw a lot of attention we've had the local health champions down. They're here today, um, they came earlier on in the week. There's a number of activities that they do already for older people.

Mark:

Yeah, there's loads of stuff that they do so.

Isobel:

We've got four really good activity spaces that will be open to the wider public in this area, with activities taking place, and yeah, it's going to be interesting to see. We've got a wide range of ages moving in. We've got some very young, active 55-year-olds and similarly we've got some older, more frail people who might not come out. We want to offer a wide range of activities to suit all those needs. We talked about bingo. It's not all bingo. We've got different things that we will make available and hopefully get some pool tournaments going on, definitely with the pool table, but also some of the um, the digital sports, the wee bowling and things like that. Those really good activities, um, right, sounds cool yeah, uh, what I wanted.

Mark:

So if I, if you wanted to move in it, what would you? How would you? How would you get on your love waiting? Is your waiting list off?

Isobel:

yeah, yeah. So if you want to move in, my first suggestion would be to bob down and have a look, because it's so. It's such a massive decision to move somewhere, but what we hope is that you walk into birchley and you get that feeling, because we all know what that feeling is. It's either right or wrong. Mike, you talked about the wrong feeling at some places. Perhaps that you'd looked at. I would suggest anybody who's interested come down. We'll give you a little tour, if we can, or we'll certainly give you as much information as you need and ask you to come down for a little tour, or we'll certainly give you as much information as you need and ask you to come down for a little tour. We have got a couple of show flats that we're able to show people as well, and we'll make time to do that and give you a little look round.

Isobel:

If you're 55 or over and you have a care need at the moment so you have a care package coming in from the local authority the best thing for you to do is to actually speak to your social worker.

Isobel:

With a care package, you will have a social worker attached. They can then put you forward for birchley park if you have no care needs at all and you're just over 55, then we're starting to build up a waiting list for those people. Um, because we do want a mix of community. The importance with housing, with care, is that you have people with no care needs, people with low care needs, medium and then high, and then what you're doing is you're creating a really balanced community of need, whereas if you have too many people who have high care needs, the amount of social interaction actually is less, because really what we want is people running their own activities, coming into the lounges when the football's on or whatever, and doing things like that. So we're really starting to create a community that will eventually tell us the kind of activities that they want, what they want to see, and we'll be led by them.

Mark:

They're the best people to tell us it's the best way, isn't it? It's the best way, so thanks for all that. I think you've given us enough information about it all. You're not going anywhere yet, though, because describe Birchley in three words, can you yeah?

Sandra:

it's brilliant, isn't it what we need? It's what we need isn't it.

Mark:

Yeah, that's good. Three words. What about you, mike? Three words to describe yeah, beautiful place. One more word, beautiful place. It's what we need. What we need is a word. How about you, isabel? Three words, I mean, you work here, so it's going to be.

Isobel:

Oh wow, I don't think three words is enough. Three words to describe it Friendly and welcoming. So that's one Friendly and welcoming, need's one friendly and welcoming. Needed, like Mike said, needed, needed for the community, needed for older people to age well, and I've got to say age friendly, oh, that's great so one thing.

Mark:

So what little touch has made you smile today? These guys always make me smile. Yeah, because for me I like to feel in the buzz about the place. Some of the residents I've met. You know, I've met Bridie and Mike, but I've met some other residents. I'm going to find it in a bit. Sandra apparently she doesn't stop talking.

Samantha Powers:

We don't need for us. If Sandra was here, you wouldn't need her us of Sandro's here.

Mike:

You're right, she's brilliant.

Mark:

I've got a button if she says oh, that didn't work, that one, I've got a button here. Oh, that's for Sam Powers, that's for Sam Powers. So, on that note, I want to say thank you to Mike, Bridie and Isabel. Thanks for coming in and get a big, big clap from all our fans, from all our fans there. And yeah, thanks for coming in and letting me know all about, all about Birchley. I'll let you know when this goes out. So, thank you when this goes out. So, thank you everyone. Thank you Coming up.

Mark:

We're just going to go to a break, quick break, um, and then we're going to be speaking to Sandra. I'm going to go and find her, so, uh, we'll be back soon. Thanks for coming in, mike, bridie and Isabel Another big shout.

Mike:

Thank you, thank you, thank you, god bless you.

Mark:

Welcome back folks. I've just been in the food area. There I've had some sort of coconut sweet thing that Tosin's been making and she's got some dumplings. I've made myself a little doggy bag. But anyway, vigrava, we're back. We're back. I've got a resident here Apparently she can't stop talking, according to Mike who was just on and we've got a few family members who've come to join us. So yeah, without further ado, thanks for Hats, chats and Giggles podcast folks. So we have Sandra. Say hi, sandra.

Sandra:

Hiya lovely mum.

Mark:

Oh, stop bouncing them keys about. Are they your keys? You haven't stole them, have you? Don't wrap them in your pocket. Hiya, sandra, welcome to the show. We've got Sandra and Rose Rose. And Emma. And Emma and Rose and Emma you're I'm her sister-in-law. Sister-in-law, I'm a sister-in-law. Sister-in-law, I'm a niece, I'm a niece. Is she an handful or what?

Rosy:

I've known her a long time. You've known her a long time. Yes, 60 years.

Mark:

So thanks for coming in. I'm so pleased you've come on to our podcast. Sandra, tell us a bit about you. What are your first impressions? When did you move in?

Sandra:

The very first day they opened, I slept on a blow-up bed.

Mark:

Right.

Sandra:

Because I didn't want to go home. Well, this is my home.

Mark:

Hold on. So your first day you come. You liked it that much that you got your blow-up bed out.

Sandra:

Yeah.

Mark:

Did it go down in the night?

Sandra:

No.

Mark:

No right, that's my experience with a blow-up bed.

Sandra:

Did it go down in the night? No, oh right, that's my experience as a bloke, I know it is normally me and you.

Mark:

So, sandra, you was the first ever resident in here, wasn't you?

Sandra:

Yeah, I was the first one with my name down. What happened was I lost my husband just before Christmas, 23. Oh, I'm sorry about that. And I thought he was asleep on the sofa and he wasn't. And then my daughter they won't let me go on for the first couple of weeks because they were doing things. So it didn't look the same when I went home and, um, my daughter's surely lives down the road. And uh, we were driving up and she said, mum, why don't you put your name down? Those are going to be assisted living apartments. And I said my exact words were not a cat in hell's chance why?

Mark:

why was that?

Sandra:

because the reason I gave her is because you've got someone on this side, somebody on that side, somebody above and somebody below. And she said, well, you'll make new friends. I said I've got friends, don't need them. So she said, well, you won't be lonely. I said, well, I won't be lonely, I've got my sewing machine. Anyway, the beginning of the year I ended up in and out of hospital. My husband was normally there. Right, yeah.

Sandra:

And he wasn't this time. So then, because I was in and out and they'd had to come out of work on the day that happened because obviously nobody was expecting it. And then the first day they went back to work. After that I ended up on the floor upstairs and my son came and found me. So I ended up in the hospital, hospital and he had to be found again for them all to come out of work.

Sandra:

And so I was in and out of hospital and they were worrying and what have you, and they were phoning me up all the time for the day to make sure I was okay and they couldn't have their life. So I I said, don't know, I'm going to put my name down. So I did, I put my name down and then, as I was back in being in that house just got worse and worse and worse, because things just repeat in your head yeah, yeah. And then I got to know someone who helped build it and he was very nice and I was saying the kind of thing that I'd like and he put his finger on his print and he went that one number 41. And it came about. People in the housing and everything who worked there. They got told Sandra wants 41. And that's all they knew me as Right the way up Sandra for 41.

Mark:

Sandra for 41. Yeah Right.

Sandra:

And then when I came to pick the keys up, I was having members of staff getting up and giving me hugs and saying face to 41. So you can ask any of the people who work here. Just say where's Sandra? 41.

Mark:

So how long? Even I know that you're at 41.

Sandra:

Everyone knows I'm at 41.

Mark:

So listen, how long have you been here then?

Sandra:

From that very first day that I could get those keys, I was in here.

Mark:

How many weeks is?

Sandra:

that it was the 7th of April, so it's two and a half well, nearly three months now, and it's the best move I've ever made. I absolutely love it. The only thing I can describe it as is to me and the others of Greed, the people who live here, these people who I don't want friends. They're good friends and they're good friends. You know what I mean. Everything I said no, I don't want.

Mark:

But we're like that, aren't we? Sometimes we're a bit I don't want anything. We're always scared of the unknown, aren't we? Sometimes we're a bit, we're a bit oh, I don't want anything. We're always scared of the unknown, aren't?

Sandra:

we? Yeah Well, it's to me on a personal basis. It's like being in a village and you know everyone. They're all friends. Right yeah, the people who work here absolutely amazing, absolutely amazing. The carers walk round with smiles on their faces yeah, there's been a lot of smiling, isn't there?

Mark:

it's a bit rare nowadays, isn't it? Everyone's always grumpy, isn't it? I know?

Sandra:

honestly and I'm not exaggerating in any way, shape or form the people who've moved in absolutely lovely, I haven't. I cannot think, oh, I have got one thing that's against it. Absolutely lovely, I haven't. I cannot think of oh, I have got one thing that's against it.

Mark:

Oh, go on, let us hear that.

Sandra:

When I open my porch, my living room door, I get a fly in. It's the same one every bloody day, I swear it. It's Christy coming to you. It probably followed you. It probably did. I've just given the negative. Oh, shaving cream, sam, what are you doing.

Mark:

How would you describe Birchley Park in three words? Then for us.

Sandra:

I've got one word.

Mark:

Yeah.

Sandra:

Amazing.

Mark:

Have you not got another two to go with it?

Sandra:

Can't get anything better.

Mark:

What about absolutely bloody amazing?

Sandra:

It's more than that it's more than that.

Mark:

It's more than that Stunning.

Sandra:

Stunning, honestly the first week. I'm surprised they didn't kick me out.

Mark:

Why? What was you doing?

Sandra:

I set the fire alarm off in the kitchen. Oh, come on, girl, I had I had I'd been having crumpets and I put toast. I thought, oh, I'll just have sardines on toast, stuck the toast in and, of course, it being on for crumpets, they take longer, don't they?

Mark:

Yeah.

Sandra:

And I thought what's that smell? And it was me burning my toast.

Mark:

Saying the fire alarm and the alarm went.

Sandra:

I'm there wafting right, and the next thing this is in seconds, not minutes.

Mark:

Seconds, the buzzer goes, are you all right, sandra? Right just?

Sandra:

checking out. That's handy, isn't it? You know what I mean? Yeah, um, I've accidentally pressed my button seconds, are you okay, sandra?

Sandra:

oh, that's nice, there's no waiting, there's no. Oh, you're so far down in the queue, are you alright? Oh, that's great. And one day, tracy, wherever she's gone, they check you every morning like the phone in the morning, say hiya, are you alright? You know what I mean. Make Make sure you're OK. And one morning last week or the week before, it didn't work. She couldn't hear me. I could hear her, but she couldn't hear me. Next thing she's knocking at my door. Are you all right? Your speaker's not working.

Mark:

Oh, that's nice, isn't it?

Sandra:

You know what I mean? I just I love them all. They're amazing.

Mark:

Oh yeah, it sounds like you're having a great time here. I am.

Sandra:

I feel like I'm on my holiday, oh.

Mark:

So can I ask you where did you live before here?

Sandra:

Literally two stops down the road Two stops.

Mark:

Have you lived in Hatters? That was all your life.

Sandra:

I've lived here 49 years 49 years. Yeah.

Mark:

So, that was like in the 70s you moved in.

Sandra:

Yeah, my children grew up here, my grandchildren have grown up here, and now I would have a new great-granddaughter later on in the year and she's going to be brought up here.

Mark:

Oh great, well, you're just the kind of person I might be actually coming. In fact, I'm probably going to come and do a podcast with the residents going forward, but we've been doing a few podcasts about the people when they first moved in here and what it used to be like. But I'm going to save that thought because I know everyone keeps telling me how much sandra can talk. So I think we're gonna.

Mark:

I think we're gonna have you back on our podcast. They're not wrong, even by an old admission, but anyway, folks listen up. Um, we've got rosie and emma here, who are relatives of sandra, so I'm just going to turn your mic down in case you start butting in here, send sand. So Rosie, emma thanks for coming. So, from your perspective, what does having tailored care available on site change for you?

Rosy:

Oh, it's marvellous. It's like going into another world. I remember when Sandra, my brother, moved up here.

Mark:

Right.

Rosy:

And there was a van used to go round selling the bread you know and stuff like that.

Mark:

So what year was that?

Rosy:

I remember 68.

Mark:

68, wow, I don't know why, in 1968.

Rosy:

What do you think of it? Oh, I mean, I put my name down last year. I'm 78, and I'd love one of these.

Mark:

Right, so you ought to have blaggies out. I'd love to live here, right?

Rosy:

I'd love to yeah.

Mark:

Right, and here you're the same, because she's not well either. You know, We've also got Pat who's not on mic. She's just off mic. She doesn't want to come on air, which I don't blame her. She's giving notes to Rosie and Emma about what they need to be saying so, and what about you, Emma? How do you? From your perspective, it's beautiful. I think it's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's like a big posh hotel.

Rosy:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7:

That's how I look at it. Yeah, I work in one in Langley like this and I think they're amazing.

Mark:

Right? Is it the same set up in Langley? You feel safe as well, don't you? No?

Speaker 7:

this is a lot bigger and it doesn't have a beauty salon and that, but it's lovely Right, right.

Mark:

how do you think, birchley?

Rosy:

Park will help families stay connected and involved. It's a lovely place for people to come and visit, like I visited today, and it's amazing. I can't get over it. It's beautiful. It's air conditioned as well. You know, I've seen such a difference in where I live. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7:

I don't want to go back and it gets people out, doesn't it? Talking and involved with activities. It's lovely, oh the flowers, everything.

Rosy:

Like this there, doesn't it? It's beautiful.

Mark:

Yeah, and there's a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes in Hattersley. I mean, I know there's the health champions and toastings in here from the Arch of Hope who does food, and there's lots of stuff that goes on in Hattersley and I'm hoping it's going to make a stronger community really.

Rosy:

It was great years ago. You know I'd love my mum to get one. I'd love one, because I've not heard anything since. You'll feel safe, right. So will I see someone today. I don't know if I can see someone.

Mark:

Maybe you need to speak to who do we have early on. We had Isabel, here she's, we had Isabel here she's a manager, is she? Yeah, yeah, and we'll try and sort that out. But I am really interested in getting you two back on this podcast, because we have been doing a lot about what it was like back in the day. I mean, I remember when the flats was here.

Rosy:

I do yeah.

Mark:

I probably remember about 20 skyscrapers and what it was like then.

Rosy:

My uncle lived in one of them, right yeah.

Mark:

So do you still live in Aslay?

Rosy:

I used to live, yeah, up the back, up here, you don't now though Sylvester Way.

Mark:

Where do?

Rosy:

you live now. I live in Hyde Road, Gorton. It's horrible. I was amazed that she doesn't have to lock her door. Right, yeah, I've had to pay £400 for alarms to be put in where I live. You feel safe there. I don't feel safe there at all.

Mark:

It's horrible. So Emma describe what in three words, virtually. Stunning beautiful, amazing. So what are the differences between the place that you work? Is it an onward place that you work? No, Riverside. Riverside. Assisted.

Mike :

Riverside Riverside.

Mark:

Assisted living, assisted living.

Speaker 7:

It's got a beauty parlour, and they've got a games room, a pool table, up there as well.

Rosy:

Oh, christy would have loved that me brother when I seen that.

Mark:

Right. So today, this open day, what's made you smile today when you've come in?

Rosy:

here, oh I was amazed.

Sandra:

Everything.

Rosy:

Everything. Oh, when you went in the flat, I thought it was small, it's massive.

Mark:

It's like she's on holiday I know it's like holiday, can I stay? But anyway, listen. Thanks for coming on to the podcast. Have you got anything else to say? Anything else?

Sandra:

Yeah, when I wake up in the night. Yeah, because I do wake up in the night and I just turn over. So I'm facing this way and all of this is all lit up and I can't describe the comfort I get from it, the safety feeling you get from it. It just makes you feel like you belong.

Mark:

Oh, that's good isn't it. In this day and age.

Sandra:

Yes, you, just you do belong, because everybody else belongs and they're all part of it. And all the things that I said about I don't need friends, I've got enough friends, I've got this, I've got that, I've got the other. Don't need this, don't need that Bull.

Mark:

It's bull. You're only a lefty time.

Sandra:

I'm not joking. This is the best move I've ever made and I am so glad that I did it. If.

Sandra:

I'd have been in a bungalow, I'd still have. You've got no garden to sort out in here, that's right. You've got no bins to sort out in here, yeah, you just get on with your. If you don't want to mix, if you want to have your time for yourself, like I do sometimes, I do my sewing, you don't have to. No, you don't have to. But the place being the way it is, you find you want to. I thought you know, like when they say, you know there's a garage lounge and a little lounge, and I thought oh, it's going to be one of them places Everybody come and have a game of bingo.

Sandra:

I thought and no, it's not a bit like that. Oh, that's great. It's lovely, it's home, from home, it's everything.

Mark:

Right well, brilliant Listen. Thanks for coming into the show. Right well, brilliant listen. Thanks for coming into the show. That's all my fans. That's all my fans. Thanks for coming into the show and contributing. You're listening to Axe Chats and Giggles. We're at Birchley.

Sandra:

Are you?

Mark:

listening, pardon? I know we can't hear a word. Oh, I did be Got a load of noise. Are you listening, pardon? I know we can't hear a word, oh, oh, I did, babe, got a load of noise, a load of people lining up to get on the show, listen. Thanks for coming in. You're listening to Hats, chats and Giggles podcast. Thank you for coming in. I've just seen our own Mike from the Elf Champions.

Sandra:

I'm going to get him to come and tell us some jokes. See you in a bit, guys.

Mark:

But first off, we're going to go for a break. We'll be right back.

Speaker 13:

Yo guys, what's up? Monday? That has the hub Everyone's game. Baby-friendly indoor fitness class at 10am to 11.30am. Esol English lessons 10am to 11.30am. Bowls 12pm to 4pm. Time for our rhyme 2.15am to 2.45am in the library At St Barnabas Meeting Point. We have a Mind Community Hive for 8 to 18 years old at 4 pm till 8 pm in the air cadet building at hatterley garden projects. We have homeschooling sessions at other community spaces. We have an everyone's game, the men's casual 5a sidewalking football at 6 pm till 7 pm at m1 st james primary school. Our rainbows, brownies and guides at 5pm to 9pm. Staying play toddler group 9 o'clock to 11 o'clock at Horeb Church. Term time only Tuesdays At Hattersley Hob and we have art club at 10am to 1pm First Tuesday of every month.

Speaker 13:

We have Makers Market at 9.30pm to 12.30pm. First Call Support Appointments, it Suites 10am to 12pm. Health Champions, craft Work Group at 1.30pm to 3.30pm and CGL Appointments at 1pm to 4pm At St Barnabas Meeting Point. We have a Craft Club at 7pm to 9pm Last Tuesday of every month. We have the Heatletter P across the UC at 10.30 to 12.30. At Cam Ward we have football sessions for 11 to 16 year olds at 5pm to 6pm Wednesdays At the Harsley Hub we have knit and natter at 9am to 12.30. We have tiny talk at 9.30 to 11.30. Curling at 1pm to 12 30. We have tiny talk at 9 30 to 11 30. Curling at 1 pm to 12 pm. Tai chi at 2 to 3 pm. Ivy club at 1 pm to 4 pm. Over 50 it 1 pm to 3 pm at st barnabas meeting point where the st barnabas alpha course starts the 11th of September till 7pm Everybody's Game walking football. 11am to 12pm at Kenward. Thursdays, east Hall English lessons 10am to 11.30am. Tiny Tots at 9.30am to 11.30am. Tea Dance at 12.30pm to 2pm First week of every month.

Speaker 13:

Parkinson's and Dementia Cafe at 1.30pm to 3.30pm. The last Thursday of every month we've got the Carers Coffee and Chat dropped in. At 1pm to 3pm. First Thursday of every month, reading Friends at 1.30pm to 2.30pm. At Seat Barnabas Meeting Point we have Barney's Tots. Parents and Toddler Group, 9.30pm to 11.30pm. The Art Cook Group, 9.30am to 11.30am. The Art Club Contest, 11.30am to 1.30am.

Speaker 13:

Hattersley Garden Project. Community volunteering at 10pm to 2pm. At other community spaces we have the St James' Primary School ARC 3.30am to 4.30am. Beginners Brass, 4.30pm to 5.30pm. Hattersley Brass Band. Friday At Hattersley Hub we have Parents and Toddlers, 9.30am to 11am. Bowls at 12pm to 3pm. First Friday of every month. Citizens Advice, 9am to 11.30am. Limited Species St Barnabas Meeting Point. Food banks at 9am to 11am. Community Citizens Advice Bureau Advisor at 10am to 2pm. Bread and Butter Service at 1pm to 2pm. Hats Creative Club ages 8 plus. At 4.30pm to 6.30pm. Hattersley Garden Project Community volunteering sessions at 10am to 2pm, then at the weekend At to 2 pm, then at the weekend at st barnabas meeting point. Kickboxing sunday at 5 pm to 6 pm. Hatlessly garden project garden center open 10 am to 3 pm on a saturday. Community garden elderberries saturday, 10 am. Vitality garden berries Saturday. 10am. Vitality Garden Growing and Gardening at 11am to 1pm on Saturdays and that's all from your what's On Guide You're listening to Hats Chats and.

Speaker 13:

Giggles Podcast.

Mark:

Welcome back folks. We've been joined by Councillor Gary Ferguson. He's been buzzing around the place today Hiya morning. Good morning Mark, actually afternoon Gary Afternoon.

Councillor Gary Ferguson:

Mark, sorry it's been a long. It's been a long morning, hasn't it?

Mark:

It's been a long day. So we're here at Birchley Park today. What are your first thoughts about it, Gary?

Councillor Gary Ferguson:

Well, I mean, it's absolutely outstanding, isn't it? I mean they've done a fantastic job here. I mean it's really spic and span. It looks the part and it is the part. I mean it's really well built and it looks like it's really going to be a success, and I hope it will be a success. The people on Hattersley have waited a long time for something like this and it's really nice to see it eventually up and running and well buzzing and the people in inside there really buzzing as well, and it's that's. That's fantastic, isn't it really?

Mark:

yep, um, my first thoughts are yeah, I think it's amazing, it's great uh the furnishings, the lighting, everything uh and I'm looking forward to finding out a little bit more uh about it. I'm going to be speaking to residents and some of the staff that work here and let us know their thoughts about it. So how do you see like Birchley Park contributing to the wider Hattersley community sort of socially, economically or in healthcare terms?

Councillor Gary Ferguson:

Well, I mean, one of the main things I think it's going to do it's going to give Hattersley a bit of a heart, I think, because it's been done sort of in the centre of everything. It doesn't divide, it unites, and I think that's what it's going to do. Socially, I think people will eventually see it as in the heart and the centre of Hattersley and the other developments that are springing up around it with the new Aldi and stuff like that. I think these are the real positives. So economically it could become a bit of a driving force because it's got that central and that key location. So that's really, really great. And, as I say, the people around here have waited a long time for something like this. And it's just a fantastic place and, like you've pointed out, the deco's up to scratch and all the furnishings inside are really top quality. I mean the way it's been designed and all with the gardens. It just gives that feeling of being very relaxed and not too in-your-face. But it is in-your-face and they've got that balance really well.

Mark:

Yeah, I agree with you. As you can hear, in the background, there's loads of people buzzing about, loads of smiling faces, and there's loads of new residents that I'm hoping to meet and never met before. Um, it's going to be interesting. While we're on the subject of the new development over the road alder and stuff like that when, when, when that. When's that going to be ready?

Councillor Gary Ferguson:

I don't know. I think it possibly, from what I've been told, when these things get put back it's going to be about 12 months before it's all up and running, but I mean it's happening and that's the main thing. I mean we can see there's spades in the ground and many nets working over there and that is also going to play in with the Birchley project. I bet Onwood and the other social prescribers are really, really happy with what's going on in and around the place, because it just gives it a bit of a buzz. I mean, you can see yourself, can't you Mark? Today there's a vibe about the place. People have got happy faces and everybody's turned out all the different partners who work so hard on Hattersley to make it a success. A lot of them have turned up today with the little stalls and telling us what's what and what they do, and it's really great to see that it's what and what they do, and it's really great to see that.

Councillor Gary Ferguson:

It's fantastic, and I'm glad I came today. I made an effort because I've got quite a busy schedule. I wanted to come along and I wanted to see exactly what's happening here. I've been a couple of times while they were building it and I never, ever, thought it would happen as quick as it has, and it has happened quite quick. I know it seems a long time, but when you look at what we've actually got, when I was driving in today, there was people outside watering the gardens and smiling and people letting on to me and I thought this is really great it's just fantastic, it's really nice.

Mark:

Brilliant. So could you describe Birchley Park in three words?

Councillor Gary Ferguson:

Absolutely brilliant, fantastic.

Mark:

Good, and I think you've already answered this what little touch made you smile today? I think you just answered answered this what little touch made you smile today? I think you just answered it, haven't you?

Councillor Gary Ferguson:

Well, what's made me smile is the way everybody's smiling at me, you know, people look happy, people look content and, like you've said, there's a lot of new, older residents who've come living here, and that can only add to it, because variety's the spice of life, and there's lots of different people being dragged onto Atsosley, and that's great, because we don't just need young blood, we need old blood, we need all different types and it's great to see all the different representations from different communities here. And we've got the African food here, haven't't we today, which is always a favourite.

Councillor Gary Ferguson:

Never lets us down. So you've got a great array celebrating difference and celebrating community spirit and it's all happening around, like I say, this central focal point, and I think that's what it will be. It's going in the right direction. Definitely, mark. I don't know what you think. Yeah, I think that's what it will be and that's it's going in the right direction. Definitely, mark, I don't know what you think.

Mark:

I think it's great. I remember the old slats here. We've been waiting for years for this land to be developed on, so, yeah, it's really good. I'm looking forward to finding more out about it. One of the things I wanted to ask you what involvement have the council had in this?

Councillor Gary Ferguson:

Well, I think what the council's been doing is just been pushing away to get it done and been lobbying and trying to help as much as they can with regard to the planning and all the other necessary legal work that needs to be done. Right.

Councillor Gary Ferguson:

I think they've been really encouraging it. I know a lot of Tameside councillors are really glad to see this over the line, no matter what their political affiliation is, and that's good, because it means they're all singing from the same hymn sheet with regard to the virtually development. So, yeah, that's fantastic as well.

Mark:

Well, listen, thanks for joining us. I know you've got a gaff. I know you've probably got a lot on being a local councillor and stuff like that.

Councillor Gary Ferguson:

It's my pleasure, mark, always a pleasure.

Mark:

So on that we're just going to give a big shout everyone to Gary Ferguson You're independent now aren't you?

Councillor Gary Ferguson:

Yeah, yeah.

Mark:

Gary Ferguson, independent local councillor. For that isn't it.

Councillor Gary Ferguson:

Thanks for coming in, gareth Cheers. Thank you, mate. See you in a bit, mate, bye-bye.

Mark:

We'll be right back after this short break. Beryl, get the kettle on.

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Mark:

And we're back After that short break. I don't know where Beryl is. I think she's going to try and get herself a place in here, so she's probably chiselling someone. Anyway, anyway the gravy. We've just spotted Mike from Matt as the Elf Champion, so we're going to have a word with him right now. Hiya Mike, Hiya, Mark, what are you doing down?

Mike :

here. Well, I can't miss an opportunity like this to get some more volunteers and some recruits to our groups.

Mark:

Yep. So for those of you who don't know, I mean if you haven't been listening to the podcast, mike's probably been here too many times and I'm sorry about that. Yeah, mike's from Hattersley Health Champions, aren't you? Yes, what have the health champions been getting up?

Mike :

to oh lots. The main thing this year is our King's Award for Voluntary Service.

Mark:

Oh, I saw that, saw that. So what were you smooching with the king, was you?

Mike :

No, no, no, we dealt with his officials. However, our chairman Gren and committee member Torsin were invited to a garden party at the palace.

Mark:

Oh right, right, I couldn't go. Was Camilla there? Whatever she's called? No, unfortunately.

Mike :

Kate and the other guy, his husband. Oh right, I'm not big upon the royal family.

Mark:

I mean, my views on the royal family are my own views on the Royal Family, so I'll leave that there. But anyway, great to see you, mike and you, so go on then. Why are you snoozing? You're looking for new volunteers. Are you going to be doing anything down here?

Mike :

We might. We're just checking out the facilities which are fantastic Right, which are fantastic Right or, as your other guest said, amazing.

Mark:

Yep. What do you think of it then?

Mike :

It's very impressive. Yeah, I do like the garden, right, I mean, you've seen our garden, haven't you at the clinic? Yep, looking good, isn't it? Yeah Well, I was working on that the other day, you know, and somebody walked past and said, excuse me, do you dig gardens? And I said, yeah, man, they're very groovy.

Mark:

Mike, are you laughing at your own jokes? Sorry about that listener, but you know what he's like. Come on, Mike, give us a better joke. They must have better jokes than that.

Mike :

Well, I have. You've noticed the weather, haven't you? It's absolutely gorgeous today. Yep, yesterday it was quite warm. I got involved in a water fight with all the local kids in the community. I won. They all ran home screaming. But they're no match for me and my electric kettle.

Mark:

That's pretty good that they're only jokes, folks. So don't be bringing up Miver and me about any inappropriateness. It's Mike, isn't it? So, yeah, what three't be ringing up Miver in me about an inappropriateness? It's Mike, innit. So yeah, what three words have you got to?

Mike :

describe virtually Spanking brand new. Spanking brand new. Yeah, you don't hear that word very often, do you? Spanking no, no, no, no.

Mark:

Well, not in a nice sense anyway. All right, mike, all right, let's keep it clean. We've got, you know, I've got two listeners who might be phoning me up later on.

Mike :

Come on, give us more jokes anyway, as I said, the weather's really nice, but I'm worried at the moment you know why In case there's a host pipe ban, because I run a colonic irrigation business. Ooh, Ooh.

Mark:

I don't know what Belle will have to say for that. She goes for a regular colonic irrigation. So where am I going with this, mike?

Mike :

I don't know, do you have trouble parking here, because it is very congested out here. I always find, though, there's loads of room to park in Bus Lane.

Mark:

It's always clear Ooh, controversial. Listen, I don't want to have any serial moaners on my back because of your advice, give us one more, mike, before we kick you off.

Mike :

Right. Has the vicar gone? By the way, he was here before. I think he's somewhere hanging about. I was going to tell him this joke, but it's probably not inappropriate for a vicar Because, you know, this place reminds me of a hotel because it's very plush, isn't it? Yeah, I've got some friends who work at the local hotel here in Hattersley Mottram and they told me a true story. One day Jesus came in, walked to the reception desk, put three nails on the counter and said can you put me up for the night? Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah wah.

Mark:

three nails on the counter and said can you put me up for the night? On that note, mike, I think you're going to need to go and stand in the naughty corner. Have you got a naughty corner in this place yet?

Mike :

I'm sure there will be one soon.

Mark:

There will be some. What about this gaff though?

Mike :

Would you mind living here? Yes, yes, but you have to be over 55, right? Yeah, well, I only just qualify, as you know thanks for coming on the show it's been a real pleasure, thank you.

Mark:

I might nick some of your jokes and put them on some of the other podcasts, if you don't mind. Hey up, here's Sandra now running running. Look at her running around like a spring bunny, that's it. She's shouting over to Bretty. Over there, sam Powers is here eating all the food, as usual and do you know?

Mike :

sorry to interrupt, but do you know us champions? We refer to Sam as Sam Super Powers. Do you know? Sorry to interrupt, but do you know us champions? We refer to Sam as Sam Superpowers because she does so much for us.

Mark:

Sam Superpowers, come on, sam, get on the mic for a minute. I'm eating doughnuts. I can't talk. I'm eating doughnuts. She's putting a yonder accent on. Is there stuff in your mouth? Well, yeah, give me that, let me eat that. You want to eat my donut? Yeah, you want my last?

Mike :

donut. Hey, save him the hole in the middle.

Mark:

So go on, Sam, sit down. I'm sorry I'm eating on air folks, but so tell us, what are you doing down here then?

Samantha Powers:

Today we were running. Oh, you can't hear me you can't hear yourself. Can't hear myself.

Mark:

It Today we were running. Oh, you can't hear me, you can't hear yourself, can't hear myself. It's because you've got the wrong headphones on your donut.

Samantha Powers:

Well, that'll be why I can't hear myself. Then, is it this one?

Mark:

Don't be messing with me, oh now I can hear you it's better no, go on then.

Samantha Powers:

These earphones are bigger than my head, okay. So today we had the first community event at birchley park and we invited community groups from all around hattersley and service providers to come in and let the residents meet them and have the local community meet the residents and see the beautiful environments that we're in. Um, we've had food from Tasty Queens. We've had the health champions telling us about all their bits and pieces Onward's been here doing money, advice, support and affordability stuff. People have come in to have a look to see if they can move in and to have a nosy around the grounds, and it's been glorious. We've had Active Tameside coming in doing some skittles and bowls outside in the gardens. What else have we done? We've done so much. Net and Natter has been here, the Ivy Club's been here, age UK's been here, everybody. It's been great. We've had loads and loads of people come down.

Mark:

Right, brilliant, brilliant. Well, thanks for popping in on our podcast. I'm going to probably call it a day in a minute and go and do something that I don't really want to do, probably. Mike, have you got any? More jokes while you're on it.

Mike :

No, I think that's your limit for today.

Mark:

Ooh, thank the good Lord for that.

Mark:

Let me just work out what I'm going to do here. Thank you, mike, sam and everyone else. I've forgot all the names. I've had that many people on today for coming in. We're going to give them a big shout from all my fans. I'll do some big shouts out. Big shout going out to Emily and G-Cross. Will you stop phoning up with stupid suggestions for the show? It's not that kind of podcast. We don't want to talk about AI and technology and the bloody wars in the world. There's enough of that stuff going on. The Twins from Singapore what are you doing listening to this? This is a local podcast for local people, all coming in. Who else we've got? Oh, we've got Craigie. Craigie, our biggest listener in.

Mark:

Australia. Big shout-out going out to you, mate. Put another shrimp on the barbie and tell your grandma thank you for the rabbits. Yeah, one last shout-out going out to you, mate. Put another shrimp on the barbie and tell your grandma thank you for the rabbits. Yeah, one last shout-out. Tiddles the cat and look at the cold fish spinning around in that bowl there. Keep at it, guys, I'm there for you. So you've been listening to Hatch Chats, a podcast live from Birchley Park. That's me over and out. If you will share, if you like what you listen to, share on Whatsapp, facebook or any other nauseating social media platforms that you waste your time on. This is Hatch Chats and Giggles. Like share, comment, subscribe and tell your grandma thank you for the rabbits you.

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